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> From: Mr. X <from_alamut at yahoo.com>
> To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 2:11:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Obama?
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> One could lower the Medicare age by five years each year and for Medicaid raise
> the income limit by say 5000 each year. This would give the system enough time
> to organize. Private insurance would cover the gaps (with possible substities)
> until there is none
>
> peace,
>
> Jim Davis
> Ozark Bioregion, USA
> Planet Gaia
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>
> http://www.lulu.com/content/paperback-book/historical-materialism/7346550
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> ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Max Sawicky
> > To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
> > Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 10:14:48 AM
> > Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Obama?
> >
> > BHO's no tax/bb syndrome is a huge problem. I've been saying that forever.
> >
> > Putting everybody in Medicare -- which I favor -- seems like a
> > daunting exercise too.
> > No doubt all the current arrangements would need to be revisited.
> > Plus the administration
> > would have to expand, a lot. Eventually it would save money.
> >
> > Rolling the cost of the whole U.S. health care system into one or two
> > programs would make the growth explicit and generate pressure to
> > economize. This would be a good problem, as opposed to bad one, but
> > it wouldn't be an easy problem.
> >
> > My ten second rap on controlling health care costs is that you have to
> > attack providers, rather than reduce care. Cheaper administration,
> > prevention, medical records, etc. don't solve the problem.
> >
> >
> > >>
> > > But what about that *old* "gigantic reporting/reimbursement system" known as
> > > Medicare? When I switched from private insurance to Medicare I experienced
> > > no disruption at all. Of course, if everyone were to be brought under it
> > > Medicare would need to improve incrementally it's coverages and
> > > reimbursement rates. Which in any case it should do today, yesterday no
> > > longer being possible. If everyone were brought under an improved Medicare
> > > the tax system (now an even greater disgrace to the human race than when JC
> > > made his immortal comment) would indeed have to be revised drastically in
> > > order to recapture the private-insurance money now wasted on bureaucracy and
> > > profits and "executive" loot.
> > >
> > > Obama, with his no-tax-increases/balanced-budget obsession is clearly an
> > > enemy of such change.
> > > He is also, as his Repugnicon heckler said, a liar. The question though is
> > > which statement is a lie: that his plan will not cover any illegal
> > > immigrants (the one Mr. Wilson called him on) or that under his plan no
> > > person will be left to suffer and die because of lack of health insurance?
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Chuck Grimes wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 12:48 -0700, ken hanly wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> How did he rat out the CBC? I thought that Obama might take a moment to
> > >>>> correct the constant misrepresentation of the Canadian system on US TV
> ads.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Is it even true that a single payer system would disrupt the health care
> > >>>> people already have, except perhaps to make it cheaper and more
> efficient?
> > >>>> It would certainly disrupt the vested interests that make the US system
> > >>>> so expensive and inefficient.
> > >>>
> > >>> Is it true single payer would distrupt...? No. You`re right. That went
> > >>> straight passed me. I missed that. What a slime.
> > >>>
> > >
> > > Shane Mage
> > >
> > >> This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it
> > >> always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire,
> > >> kindling in measures and going out in measures."
> > >>
> > >> Herakleitos of Ephesos
> > >
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