I think the problem here is that Marvin seems to be defining the state as "a tool of repression in the hands of the wealthy."
--- On Thu, 9/24/09, Wojtek S <wsoko52 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Of course it does not mean that a strong state is
> automatically democratic -
> but that it can guarantee a democracy under certain
> conditions, wheras a
> weak state will almost certainly become a tool of
> repression in the hands of
> the wealthy.
>
> Wojtek