>Don't know about others, but I'm talked out.
The reason people kept coming back to this, I think, was in response to the claim that certain Marxian "metaphysics" and "notions" were false and should be abandoned. It was that dubious claim that kept things going in circles.
>>The class character of the
>>state is an interesting issue, but doesn't really affect the more
>>empirically grounded views we hold in common with respect to contemporary
>>class and other conflicts, or am I missing something?
It's a tedious discussion for sure.