[lbo-talk] Tea Party and "ratfuckers"

[Bhaskar Sunkara]

I'm sympathetic to Brad's position and I do think the petit bourgeoisie has
real grievances, but the job for the moment is organizing leftists as
leftists (as opposed to just building competition sects with their own front
groups), building a core and then finding a wider base among students, the
unpoliticized, those liberals who today have operative social democratic
politics... in the mean time where is this imaginary "left' that has a
serious alternative to offer people otherwise enticed by right-populism?

 Where is this "left" that groups like the CPUSA want to use to form an
"alliance" with liberals?  If we're years and years away from organizing
10-15,000 socialists in the US and Canada into a permanent organization that
allows for the permanent formation of factions, freedom of discussion,
etc... how utopian is the rest of the Left's political program?

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Carrol Cox <cbcox at ilstu.edu> wrote:


>
>
> brad bauerly wrote:
> >
> > shag wrote:
> > >I happen to think that "reaching out" to TPers to "convince" them "that
> > >this is not the way forward" is a waste of time.
> >
> > But I didn't say reach out to TPers.  I said "reach out and convince
> > people with very real problems that this is not the way forward."
>
> Now we are back to Doug's point. I, Doug, shag, others think this is a
> complete waste of time. I also think it is a waste of time and thought
> to argue with you over it. I don't give a shit about the "real problems"
> of ruling-class dupes, scabs, & petty-bourgois racists. Fuck them.
>
> So you go out and persuade them. Active leftists have better things to
> do. Serious left theorists have bettyer things to theorize orver.
>
> Carrol
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