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> Bhaskar Sunkara wrote:
> >
> > Good point, I'm not sure why I singled out that passage, I do think his
> > critique of petit-bourgeois "green" politics is on the money. Also,
> aren't
> > things like the finite nature of time an absolute limit on the system?
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Matthias Wasser
> > <matthias.wasser at gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Bhaskar Sunkara
> > > <bhaskar.sunkara at gmail.com>wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > ...Capital is value in motion – it
> > > > succeeds in reproducing itself ultimately only by expanding.
> So-called
> > > > capitalist solutions are no solutions at all – emissions trading is
> > > > obviously a scam, and can only be a scam, since if carbon credits are
> > > > strictly and permanently limited carbon markets are not markets, as
> no
> > > > expansion is possible.
> > > >
> > >
> > > This is nonsensical. Are venues for buying and selling rights to land
> not
> > > markets either?
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> Not capitalist markets. Capitalism cannot ever vecome _all_ of society,
> though it continously strives to commodify all human relations, it
> cannot do so.
>
No doubt. How does this interfere with the ability of a capitalist government to implement cap and trade? C&T doesn't even set limits on the absolute growth of the sectors it regulates, as technology can get more and more efficient.