[lbo-talk] DC blizzard dooms cap and trade

Carrol Cox cbcox at ilstu.edu
Wed Feb 10 11:21:45 PST 2010


Bhaskar Sunkara wrote:
>
> Good point, I'm not sure why I singled out that passage, I do think his
> critique of petit-bourgeois "green" politics is on the money. Also, aren't
> things like the finite nature of time an absolute limit on the system?
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Matthias Wasser
> <matthias.wasser at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Bhaskar Sunkara
> > <bhaskar.sunkara at gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > ...Capital is value in motion – it
> > > succeeds in reproducing itself ultimately only by expanding. So-called
> > > capitalist solutions are no solutions at all – emissions trading is
> > > obviously a scam, and can only be a scam, since if carbon credits are
> > > strictly and permanently limited carbon markets are not markets, as no
> > > expansion is possible.
> > >
> >
> > This is nonsensical. Are venues for buying and selling rights to land not
> > markets either?

Not capitalist markets. Capitalism cannot ever vecome _all_ of society, though it continously strives to commodify all human relations, it cannot do so.

Carrol



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