[lbo-talk] NYT: Party Gridlock in Washington Feeds Fear of a DebtCrisis

Matthias Wasser matthias.wasser at gmail.com
Thu Feb 18 18:55:32 PST 2010


On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Marv Gandall <marvgandall at videotron.ca>wrote:


>
> On 2010-02-18, at 9:13 PM, Chris Doss wrote:
>
> > In this conversation, the term "fascist" is being used in an extremely
> vague sense, a sense that no Fascist in the 1920s and 30s would have
> recognized. "Fascist" does not mean "member of right-wing movement," and I
> seriously doubt that most members of Mussolini's party would have recognized
> the tea-baggers as confreres. Have you guys ever read any actual Fascist
> writings -- Gentille, Mussolini, Junger?
> ==========================
> I read some Gentile, spelled with one L, way back when.
>
> I'm sure Gramsci read them all in the original Italian, and would contest
> your view that fascism, including it's Italian incarnation, wasn't a
> right-wing movement formed to battle Communists and other leftists in the
> streets in the aftermath of the Russian Revolution.
>
> Anyway, I'll let others indulge your eccentric views on fascism.
>

Chris said that "'fascist' does not mean 'member of right-wing movement." How on earth are you getting "fascism is not a right-wing movement" from that? Is every right-wing movement the same?

On general principle I stop taking a writer seriously whenever she claims a movement not from the 1930s or claiming direct descendance from such is "fascist." There's such a well-known tendency towards these sorts of claims that even pointing them out is considered cliche.



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