i agree with you about the fact that they are no more capable. it's true, i don't work at the big boys, so i wouldn't know about that segment. but when it comes to talent from abroad where i work and in the user groups i frequent, they are no more capable or smarter than u.s.ers who went to vocational schools. some of them work harder, but others who do contracting gigs learn to work the system. that is: they lie. and they learn to do as little as possible, only making it look like they're doing a lot, just like u.s.ers.
maybe it's different with the IBMs, Googles, and Microsoft. But among middling companies, talent from other countries is no more or less capable.
At 07:45 AM 2/19/2010, Fernando Cassia wrote:
>It´s not that software engineers and engineers in general are "more
>capable" than U.S. ones, they are FAR CHEAPER than U.S. ones. The rest
>doesn´t matter. They say "for the price of one U.S: engineer, I can have
>four engineers in (India, China, Argentina, for that matter). If the
>things those overseas engineers suck, or need 4x more people, they add
>more cheap engineers. People with MBAs haven´t read
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month FC On Fri, Feb 19,
>2010 at 9:31 AM, shag carpet bomb <shag at cleandraws.com>wrote: > i didnt'
>get the impression he was a software dev, but i was impatient > reading
>the long rant. hard to feel sorry about a guy who had a chip on his >
>shoulder forever, wants to make money off the military-industrial
>complex, > and then doesn't want to pay the taxes that everyone else does
>to make the > MIC his great cow teat in the sky. feh. he kept talking
>about engineering. > the way he said "real engineering" made me think he
>wasn't doing software - > since "real" engineers like to disparage
>software dev as an interloper on > the older engineering fields. > > i
>dislike those articles about the decline of skills in the u.s.. like >
>Friedman running around bleating about the loss of jobs to India, etc.
>it's > a silly scare-tactic and it buy right into the whole thing:
>"Omigod! Omigod! > We are not gonna be number 1 anymore. Omigod! Omigod!
>The horror! The > terror! Someone might be better than we are!" > > At
>04:44 AM 2/19/2010, Fernando Cassia
>wrote: > > > http://stallman.org/articles/texas.html Poor Texas, it gets
>no love from >> those cranky software developers, even the likable Santa
>Claus of the >> software world, Richard Stallman doesn´t like
>´em< >> http://stallman.org/articles/texas.html>... He should have
>tried China or >> India, if one believes the results of a study published
>on Informationwek... >> * >>
>http://www.informationweek.com/news/storage/disaster_recovery/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=222900188*which
>says the US of A is losing its tech edge... confirming rivers of ink >>
>warning of the flight of engineering jobs to Asia... FC >>
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