Where we depart is that I see it as a systemic fault of the entire US political system, the US voters including, not just the DP. I said that time and again on this forum, and I am surprised that you did not bother to notice that.
As to Obama - I like his personal style, that's it. I did not take his message of "hope" any more seriously than any line that an actor would utter playing his or her role. I do not think any real change is possible in this shithole in the current political lineup, an blaming any individual party for the failure to institute such a change, be it Obama or the DP, smells of the political delusions that you accuse me of.
Wojtek
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Carrol Cox <cbcox at ilstu.edu> wrote:
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>
> brad bauerly wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > [WS:] I see it differently. Yes, he caved in, but he was a junior
> senator
> > > elected president with little political experience facing entrenched
> and
> > > seasoned political machine.
> >
> > What exactly did he cave on? He appears to have done precisely what he
> said
> > he would and what one would expect him to based on his corporate support.
> > People were just delusional about who he was or what he represented, hell
> > even about what he himself said.
>
> The thought that liberals cannot stand is that the actions of the DP &
> its leadership really represent what the party fundmentally stands for.
> As long as those actions can be explained as errors or sell-outs the
> liberal can continue to believe that "his/her" party really is well
> intentioned and deserves support from all right-thinking people. WS
> perfectly expresses the inner conviction of all liberals who put their
> fairh in the DP.
>
> Carrol
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