[lbo-talk] Chavez's socialist world vision

[Bhaskar Sunkara]

The quoted passage was: "To govern the capitalist state is to serve
capital."  I'm not sure how that's silly.  Read the post and tell me what
your disagreements are.  This is more or less the underpinning of State and
Revolution and Marx and Engels' writings on the Paris Commune and the
experience of every single parliamentary socialist government ever elected.

 I think this is a basic political question, one that separates socialists
and social democrats (I don't use "social democrats" pejoratively).

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Carrol Cox <cbcox at ilstu.edu> wrote:


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> Somebody Somebody wrote:
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> > Maybe the left should concern itself less with whether or not it's
> > tainted by capital and more about achieving practical goals to improve
> > people's lives. Less revolutionary rhetoric and more improved health
> > and education, comrades.
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> I haven't read the post from Bhaskar you quote, but I tend to
> agree with you that the passage you quote is pretty silly. So? That
> means you or others can theeefore because of one silly leftists on a
> maillist can throw over the whole left movement.
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