[lbo-talk] LA talk

Wojtek S wsoko52 at gmail.com
Mon Jun 21 13:03:51 PDT 2010


Joanna: "I t has become impossible for people to imagine how to get outside of the totality because to imagine the demise of this system is the equivalent of imagining total destruction period."

[WS:] I think it has become impossible for people to to get out of the totality because there is no alternative in sight. That is, with the demise of the USSR, which rightly or wrongly has been perceived as an alternative to the capital, there is no living example of a system that is both non-capitalist and progressive & intellectually attractive.

Wojtek

On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 8:06 PM, <123hop at comcast.net> wrote:


> Chuck writes:
>
> "I wrote Josh Rushing an email (mistaking him for Avi Lewis) about this
> intersection between government, corporations, military, and media. I went
> into some detail about how the high level infracture is mutally coordinated
> to manage public perception during major disasters. You see the same set of
> players mobilized each time. It was really obvious with 9/11 forward. Now
> we
> have Obama doing exactly the same
>
> Crisis management effectively has little to do with fixing what got broke
> and changing policies that lead to the disasters. Crisis management is
> instead devoted on not fixing the damage and not changing policy. Crisis
> management is also devoted to covering the root causes and or displacing
> them. "
>
> Yes, this is the reality of totalizing capitalism. I don't know the right
> terminology, but the best example of it was seeing an article in Al Jazeera
> (of all places) a few months ago bemoaning the fact that if the Israeli
> apartheid wall doesn't continue to get built, Palestinians would lose jobs
> (building the wall). My jaw hit the floor.
>
> But it's all of a piece: "Arbeit macht frei."
>
> I t has become impossible for people to imagine how to get outside of the
> totality because to imagine the demise of this system is the equivalent of
> imagining total destruction period.
>
> To change their minds would be a job for art :) or for a calamity so
> stupefying that the same old lies could no longer work.
>
> Joanna
>
>
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