[lbo-talk] The Ideology Problem

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Tue May 4 15:38:17 PDT 2010


At 06:15 PM 5/4/2010, Carrol Cox wrote:


>Somebody Somebody wrote:
> >
> >
>Socialism didn't get it's ass beat in the 20th century due to a failure
>to fully grapple with epistemological or metaphysical questions. It was
>because it didn't provide the right answers to questions dealing with
>the relations of production.
>
>Oh fuck! The same voluntraism that poisons most attempts to "judge" past
>socialist struggles. (Incientally, this personification of Socialism is
>a bit silly too.) Socialist movements failed because after doint as well
>as it was possible to do, the working classes of the world were simply
>weaker thab capitalism. Nothing socialist movementts/leaders might
>have done differently would have changed the outcome.
>
>Carrol

the subject of history problem, strikes again!



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