[lbo-talk] The Ideology Problem

[Carrol Cox]

This, and the many other varieties of socialist thought fits my argument
that socialism is a 'bigger' movement than just its "Marxist" threads
(however defined). That's why I deny that the phrase, "Marxist Movement"
makes sense. And in 1900 there were the SLP, the U.S. SP, and the IWW,
not necessarily Kautskyan. One cannot pin a serious mass movement to any
one specific philosophy or set of ideas.

Carrol

Jim Farmelant wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, 4 May 2010 20:27:13 +0100 "James Heartfield"
> <Heartfield at blueyonder.co.uk> writes:
> > SA writes, as if this view was absurd: '"Marxism"  was essentially
> > seen as a philosophy about how forces and relations of  production
> > are in conflict; how capitalism is concentrating production,
> > immiserating the proletariat, driving down the rate of profit, and
> > preparing the path for socialism.'
> >
> > Which to me sounds like a reasonable shorthand for what Marx spent
> > most of his time writing about (apart from the word 'philosophy',
> > which study, he compared to wanking).
> >
> > But apparently, no, Marx was not really writing about relations of
> > production or the rate of profit, or immiseration, but really just
> > preparing the ground for the fascinating study of .... epistemology
> > and the nature of man!
> 
> Well, that indeed is the way that a lot
> of Marxist philosophy has been written.
> On the other hand, we may recall that
> one recent Marxist
> philosopher, the late Jerry Cohen,
> developed an interpretation of Marx,
> "Karl Marx's Theory of History:
> A Defense," which quite consciously
> hearkened back to the kind of
> Marxism that Kautsky & Plekhanov
> had popularized over a century ago.
> That is he treated Marx as having
> been mainly concerned with the
> relations of production, forces
> of production, the superstructure etc.
> 
> Later on though, he seems to
> have concluded that this was a
> mistake and he devoted the rest of
> his life to defending socialism
> using the methods of analytical
> political philosophy, so this meant
> discussing socialism in relation
> to the ideas of philosophers like
> Nozick, Rawls, Dworkin, Sen,
> etc. and providing critiques of
> their ideas.
> 
> Jim Farmelant
> http://independent.academia.edu/JimFarmelant
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> Jim Farmelant
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