[lbo-talk] What government spending?

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> Wojtek: So what makes things happen, the invisible hand?
>
> The question _I_ asked had to do with mass movements, which are the
> only
> source of liberatory change? And we know beyond any doubt that such
> movements start with a VERY minute percentage of the residents, and
> achieve
> their results with a small minority. There are no exeptions to this...

Which is why all such movements have failed to achieve their
liberatory goals and all have either failed to displace old forms of
oppressive rule or led to the installation of new forms of oppressive
rule. There are no exceptions to this. Liberatory change will be the
accomplishment of the overwhelming majority or it will not be.

Shane Mage

^^^^^^^^

Marx and Engels held the position that the characteristics Shane
attributes to "Liberatory" change are unique to the Communist
revolution of all "Liberatory" movements in history.

"All previous historical movements were movements of minorities, or in
the interest of minorities. The proletarian movement is the
self-conscious, independent movement of the immense majority, in the
interest of the immense majority. The proletariat, the lowest stratum
of our present society, cannot stir, cannot raise itself up, without
the whole superincumbent strata of official society being sprung into
the air. "

http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch01.htm#007

For capitalism The Proletariat, the great mass, is the Thunderbolt.

"Thunderbolt steers all things." Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr. 64