[lbo-talk] Why Capitalism Cannot be Tamed

Joshua Morey amvojo at gmail.com
Sat Oct 30 19:37:47 PDT 2010


Perhaps I misundertand you, but "Capitalist social relations" means more (to those who understand such relations to exist, anyway) than a group of rich people developing a shitty, malevolent sub-culture together. I cannot find meaninglessness in the fact that I do not own means of production and am subject to competitive labor markets, that nearly everything I produce is expropriated by those who own the things I use when I work, that it is real people - not things - between whom such relationships occur; indeed, I see these facts as *very* meaningful, constitutive parts of my life.

Perhaps I oversimplify commodity fetishism...but I think to deny the influence of these relationships on our lives is to indulge in a fantasy of mastery over nature and history. On Oct 30, 2010 8:01 PM, "Wojtek S" <wsoko52 at gmail.com> wrote:



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