Oh, and Miles, I'm with Michael, what you say repeatedly is worth repeating as regularly as needed. Most everyone I meet inverts that causality in utterly \ reified fashion.
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Joshua Morey <amvojo at gmail.com> wrote:
> Perhaps I misundertand you, but "Capitalist social relations" means more
> (to
> those who understand such relations to exist, anyway) than a group of rich
> people developing a shitty, malevolent sub-culture together. I cannot find
> meaninglessness in the fact that I do not own means of production and am
> subject to competitive labor markets, that nearly everything I produce is
> expropriated by those who own the things I use when I work, that it is real
> people - not things - between whom such relationships occur; indeed, I see
> these facts as *very* meaningful, constitutive parts of my life.
>
> Perhaps I oversimplify commodity fetishism...but I think to deny the
> influence of these relationships on our lives is to indulge in a fantasy of
> mastery over nature and history.
> On Oct 30, 2010 8:01 PM, "Wojtek S" <wsoko52 at gmail.com> wrote:
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