[lbo-talk] European Welfare State

c b cb31450 at gmail.com
Tue Sep 21 14:49:52 PDT 2010


Angelus Novus

Angelus:


> "look, universal health care is viable".

But a big argument of the neo-liberal rollback is that such welfare state provisions is that they are no longer financially feasible, which of course is exactly the arguments that U.S. right-wingers use ("Sure, in socialist Europe they have universal health care, and it's bankrupting them!").

^^^^^ CB: We argue that the rightwing is wrong. And add "Look whose calling who bankrupt. America's healthcare system is bankrupting us. Our banking system is bankrupting us , too."

^^^^^

I think arguments that rest upon the existence of such institutions are on shaky grounds when those institutions are already being rolled back or under serious threat of rollback. It's far better to argue that such institutions are a fundamental entitlement.

^^^^ CB: Best to argue both. Universal health care is both viable and morally right.

^^^^^


> And it was the Red Army that inflicted most of the casualties on the
> German Army in WWII. Should have flown Soviet flags.

Never underestimate pure youthful rebellion. Soviet flags are a sort of leftist cliche. If you are a young radical leftist who really wants to piss off your green-liberal parents, you can drive them crazy with U.S. and Israeli flags. Yes, yes, I know it's impossible for U.S. leftists to fathom that.

^^^^^ CB: Oh that. They rebelled themselves right out of the category "radical leftist" smile. Why do you think we can't fathom youthful rebellion. We got it in spades.



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