wojtek
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 2:32 PM, c b <cb31450 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Wojtek S
>
> ^^^^ CB: This is true, and it is the effect of White supremacy. But
> the main divisions of the working class that prevent class unity are
> in (racial) residential segregation and (racial) endogamous marriage
> and mating. In other words, de facto , not de jure, Jim Crow still
> exists in the North and the South, the East and the West. "At home",
> the working class is majorly divided. This is what capitalism "needs".
>
> [WS:] I do not think if it is true, but even if it were, that is a
> pretty self-defeating diagnosis for a social activist or a reformer.
> If Jim Crow still lives in popular preferences, then chances are he
> will never die, at least not any time soon.
>
> ^^^^^
> CB: I'm not sure what you are saying you don't think is true. The data
> being presented demonstrates there is significant residential racial
> segregation.
>
> As to whether that and racially endogamous marriage and mating (
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endogamy) will end soon, I doubt it. The
> observation may not be a happy one, but it would be self-deceiving to
> deny it's true.
>
> ^^^^^^^^
>
>
>
> My diagnosis is different - it is "social market" and cultural
> consumption based identity on both sides. One a life style and
> cultural consumption style becomes a defining factor of who we are,
> people naturally tend to gravitate toward those with similarly define
> "identities." It is quite visible in social media, among other things.
> You do not need legal apartheid anymore, "social market" will do a far
> better job at segregating people.
>
> This diagnosis at least offers a strategy for change. Change cultural
> identity, and Jim Crow will kick the bucket. Just look at the Army -
> the first thing they do is to suppress whatever "civilian" identity
> recruits have, and replace it with the Army identity - teamwork,
> patriotism and all that. The ideological content of that new identity
> may be reprehensible, but the approach works - the Army is probably
> one of the most ethnically integrated institutions in this country.
>
> Wojtek
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