On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 6:21 PM, shag carpet bomb <shag at cleandraws.com>wrote:
> ?
>
> oh ferfucksake. in the words of Tabatha, what a fuckwit.
>
> The wage disparity is the result of the fact that nearly 80 of women are
> concentrated in secretarial/clerical, nursing, and teaching jobs whereas men
> are not nearly so concentrated in occupational groups. And the occupations
> to which women tend to be confined are systematically paid less than
> stereotypically "male" jobs. early 00s numbers, so maybe things have changed
> a bit. The .59ct to the dollar business has not, for a long time, meant that
> women, job for job, got paid .59 when a man got paid a buck. @@
>
>
> At 05:24 PM 4/21/2011, John Wesley wrote:
>
>> ...and were you being paid 59 cents for each dollar that the men at this
>> workplace received?
>> Somehow, I don't think so!
>>
>> Mike G
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: shag carpet bomb <shag at cleandraws.com>
>> To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org; lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
>> Sent: Thu, April 14, 2011 6:34:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] the decline of men
>>
>> I think he probably means that, at work, an under 30 year old recently
>> told
>> me that women sucked at math and logic, and thus I shouldn't be a
>> programmer. Of course, when I get off the elevator, least here in the old
>> dominion, almost all the men always let me off first. I love sitting on
>> that pedestal because it shonuf compensates for the fact that, when I
>> pointed out that the boys always went out to lunch together and never
>> invited the women (all <35, mind) they laughed at themselves in an ooops
>> kinda way but pointed out that, well, gee, having a woman along would ruin
>> things. and besides, a female colleague at lunch might raise suspicions
>> with wives and girlfriends or cause people to start gossiping about a
>> possible romance. (
>> this was especially funny because the three men telling me this were
>> black,
>> and there's a lot of joshing around about subtle and not so subtle racism
>> and how irritated they are by it at times.) But rest assured, I'm on the
>> pedestal when my boss naturally selects me to make sure we provide snacks
>> for the next team building exercise. Also, uh, I perch upon and enjoy the
>> pedestal when one of the other guys on my team said that, by remembering
>> birthdays, I was acting like a woman which wasn't such a good idea because
>> that would always make me material for, secretary, not lead engineer or a
>> manager or anything. oh, and I feel especially protected when the director
>> of IT regularly introduces himself to a table of people eating together by
>> scanning the table, noting that I'm the only woman, and then loudly saying
>> while looking directly at me, "Ladies...." in order to be so funny ha ha!
>> And, of course, we have it so much easier, also, when men 35 and younger
>> tell you that they can't attend a meeting or go on a group ride because
>> they have to babysit their kids. no. really. The pedestal is fucking
>> awesome.
>>
>>
>> At 06:22 PM 4/14/2011, 123hop at comcast.net wrote:
>> >I have no idea what you're talking about.
>> >
>> >Women empowered? To do what? Work full time and do all the house and
>> >family work too?
>> >
>> >Pedestal? Are you joking?
>> >
>> >Joanna
>> >
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "John Wesley" <godisamethodist at yahoo.com>
>> >
>> >I believe that it does.
>> >
>> >Woman enjoy almost complete empowerment in all aspects of contemporary,
>> >while at
>> >the same time still preserving their age old place on the pedastal .
>> >
>> >Mike G
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >________________________________
>> >From: "123hop at comcast.net" <123hop at comcast.net>
>> >To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
>> >Sent: Thu, April 14, 2011 5:05:41 PM
>> >Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] the decline of men
>> >
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "c b" <cb31450 at gmail.com>
>> >
>> >^^^^^
>> >Does this asserted advance of women in relation to men mean that
>> >feminism has had big successes ?
>> >
>> >------------
>> >
>> >I see no reason to discuss the superiority of one sex over the other.
>> >Because,
>> >after all, we're meant to work together. And reciprocity is so much more
>> fun
>> >than hierarchy.
>> >
>> >Joanna
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