Yes, I may be a "fuckwit", but I do firmly believe that the .59/$1. ratio is generally used to convey the implication that this inequity applies across the board in the workforce.
At a local campus, to commemorate Mar. 8, I've seen various student groups holding bake sales where "XY"'s pay $1. for an item, while the "XX"'s pay only $.50 ! The implication is quite obvious, I believe.
That would be quite a bargain for women radiologists (we all know that most MD's are notorious cheapskates, irrespective of gender!)
How about using as a ratio the income of a woman radiology tech. (maybe 40K annually) to that of a women radiologist (as much as 600-800K)? That is really the critical type of inequity which must be addressed and the one that explains why we'll probably never have universal single-payer health coverage in the "land of the free" (lol)
________________________________ From: shag carpet bomb <shag at cleandraws.com> To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org; lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org Sent: Thu, April 21, 2011 5:21:48 PM Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] the decline of men
oh ferfucksake. in the words of Tabatha, what a fuckwit.
The wage disparity is the result of the fact that nearly 80 of women are concentrated in secretarial/clerical, nursing, and teaching jobs whereas men are not nearly so concentrated in occupational groups. And the occupations to which women tend to be confined are systematically paid less than stereotypically "male" jobs. early 00s numbers, so maybe things have changed a bit. The .59ct to the dollar business has not, for a long time, meant that women, job for job, got paid .59 when a man got paid a buck. @@
At 05:24 PM 4/21/2011, John Wesley wrote:
>...and were you being paid 59 cents for each dollar that the men at this
>Somehow, I don't think so!
>From: shag carpet bomb <shag at cleandraws.com>
>To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org; lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
>Sent: Thu, April 14, 2011 6:34:17 PM
>Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] the decline of men
>I think he probably means that, at work, an under 30 year old recently told
>me that women sucked at math and logic, and thus I shouldn't be a
>programmer. Of course, when I get off the elevator, least here in the old
>dominion, almost all the men always let me off first. I love sitting on
>that pedestal because it shonuf compensates for the fact that, when I
>pointed out that the boys always went out to lunch together and never
>invited the women (all <35, mind) they laughed at themselves in an ooops
>kinda way but pointed out that, well, gee, having a woman along would ruin
>things. and besides, a female colleague at lunch might raise suspicions
>with wives and girlfriends or cause people to start gossiping about a
>possible romance. (
>this was especially funny because the three men telling me this were black,
>and there's a lot of joshing around about subtle and not so subtle racism
>and how irritated they are by it at times.) But rest assured, I'm on the
>pedestal when my boss naturally selects me to make sure we provide snacks
>for the next team building exercise. Also, uh, I perch upon and enjoy the
>pedestal when one of the other guys on my team said that, by remembering
>birthdays, I was acting like a woman which wasn't such a good idea because
>that would always make me material for, secretary, not lead engineer or a
>manager or anything. oh, and I feel especially protected when the director
>of IT regularly introduces himself to a table of people eating together by
>scanning the table, noting that I'm the only woman, and then loudly saying
>while looking directly at me, "Ladies...." in order to be so funny ha ha!
>And, of course, we have it so much easier, also, when men 35 and younger
>tell you that they can't attend a meeting or go on a group ride because
>they have to babysit their kids. no. really. The pedestal is fucking awesome.
>At 06:22 PM 4/14/2011, 123hop at comcast.net wrote:
> >I have no idea what you're talking about.
> >Women empowered? To do what? Work full time and do all the house and
> >family work too?
> >Pedestal? Are you joking?
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "John Wesley" <godisamethodist at yahoo.com>
> >I believe that it does.
> >Woman enjoy almost complete empowerment in all aspects of contemporary,
> >while at
> >the same time still preserving their age old place on the pedastal .
> >Mike G
> >From: "123hop at comcast.net" <123hop at comcast.net>
> >To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
> >Sent: Thu, April 14, 2011 5:05:41 PM
> >Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] the decline of men
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "c b" <cb31450 at gmail.com>
> >Does this asserted advance of women in relation to men mean that
> >feminism has had big successes ?
> >I see no reason to discuss the superiority of one sex over the other.
> >after all, we're meant to work together. And reciprocity is so much more fun
> >than hierarchy.
>Wear Clean Draws
>('coz there's 5 million ways to kill a CEO)
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