[lbo-talk] from danielle to dani

Sean Andrews cultstud76 at gmail.com
Tue Aug 30 12:06:09 PDT 2011

I haven't had time to read much on the list lately (though I'm getting around to a response to the popular philosophy thread) but I couldn't tear myself away from this one. Interesting for all the reasons you mention and disturbing on many levels. I was glad however, that they did talk to the birth mom. I worried she was being villified unjustly for a part of it, that there must be something more to the story: that little interview was enough to confirm that she actually was a completely vile human being, even if she was also a bit insane.

I don't sympathize much with bible beaters, but if it helps the foster parents (and her brother) help this girl it's ok by me.


On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 13:50, shag carpet bomb <shag at cleandraws.com> wrote:
> i agree on that one, yeah, but I was speaking of a separation because
> it seems that's the way most folks think about it. heaven forfend if
> i'd written socially constituted or socially constructed. :)
>> absolutely. well, and of course "natural" and "social" are kind of the
>> same thing, when we're talking about it this way. no?
>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 1:14 PM, shag carpet bomb
>> <shag at cleandraws.com> wrote:
>>> yes. heartbreaking. very very interesting insights into language,
>>> socialization, the way that social interaction is absolutely
>>> required
>>> for any of that to take root, her inability to be touched or hugged
>>> without recoiling in fear, terror, and pain, tendencies toward
>>> tantrums and anger, ...
>>> so much that we think is natural is totally dependent on the social.
>>>> seriously.
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