[lbo-talk] [OFFLIST] Re: Arab Spring: The Libyan Remix

123hop at comcast.net 123hop at comcast.net
Wed Aug 31 10:46:49 PDT 2011


La Leche were incredibly helpful to me when I wanted to breast feed.

The birth process in hospitals is not like the fifties, but it does result in a 33% C section rate, a lot of induced labor, a lot of episiotomies, and so on.

I had two kids born in the hospital, but if I had to do it all over again, I would have brought a midwife with me.

On the other hand, if a woman doesn't want to breast feed, she probably should not. It seems a lovingly given bottle would be better than resentful breastfeeding.

J.

----- Original Message ----- From: "shag carpet bomb" <shag at cleandraws.com>

because they don't tolerate anyone who doesn't breastfeed. they blame and shame women for being unwilling or unable to do so, etc. i'm surprised you haven't heard the horror stories. the got mad about the toxicity issue because they believe it is a devious plot to discourage women from breastfeeding.

a bunch of my work friends have had babies recently. peds/obs aren't clueless any more. the drum beat is for breastfeeding, these days, and you're considered out of it, and possibly selfish and maybe even a bad parent, if you don't breastfeed.

i have noticed among the home birthers that they have been fed a bizarre myth that the birth process in hospitals is still a lot like it was in the 1950s. oiy. it's kind of scary that they feed families this mythology in order to shore up their sense that anyone who chooses anything other than home birth are icky people.

At 04:29 PM 8/30/2011, 123hop at comcast.net wrote:
>I don't understand. La Leche is about breast feeding babies. You call them
>because you're interested in breast feeding your baby, and if there are
>any problems, your pediatrician/obstetrician is clueless. I don't see how
>that's dogmatism. They were incredibly helpful: we had a common goal.
>
>Why should they not be upset if mother's milk becomes toxic?
>
>What am I missing here?
>
>Joanna
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Carrol Cox" <cbcox at ilstu.edu>
>
>
>Joanna, in my experience, if there is any group on earth more dogmatic
>and sectarian than the Trotskyists, it is La Leche. One point the
>anti-nuclear testing peole would sometimes make was that strontium 90
>had gotten into women's milk. La Leche people went ballistic over that.
>
>Carrol
>
>On 8/30/2011 12:30 PM, 123hop at comcast.net wrote:
> > I can answer ravi's question: La Leche League
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Wojtek S"<wsoko52 at gmail.com>
> >
> > Question to ravi: can you give me an example of an institution or a
> > social movement that is not manipulated by elites or wannabe elites?
> > I cannot think of any.
> >
> > Wojtek
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