[lbo-talk] Occupy the hood: A black perspective on occupywallstreet

123hop at comcast.net 123hop at comcast.net
Wed Dec 14 16:18:42 PST 2011


Lookee here. All I was doing was responding to one article that was posted to this list in which the author spoke about the relative lack of participation from black people in OWS, without mentioning how black people might view the likelihood of engaging with cops and being arrested in light of their overall experience with such matters. It seemed really strange to me that this factor had been left out of that particular discussion.

Joanna

----- Original Message ----- I usually disagree with Doug on matters of race & the left, but I think he's essentially right here. "Elephant in the room" is a rather odd phase to use in respect to a matter that everyone concerned has discussed and discussed and wrestled with from the very beginning; in fact for 50 years. It's a fact. The enemy scored a coup over us when they elected Obama. I wonder what Clinton would have done to the woma's movement.

Race remains at the center of working-class politics, but this particular fact is no elephant. It's not even a mouse.

Carrol

-----Original Message----- From: lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org [mailto:lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org] On Behalf Of Doug Henwood Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 1:15 PM To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Occupy the hood: A black perspective on occupywallstreet

Well, yeah, but what's the point of this exactly? I'm guessing that most OWS participants are more aware of what cops are like than the average Joe. That aside, whites shouldn't complain because things could be worse, i.e., they could be black? Some sort of one-upmanship? Please enlighten.

Doug

On Dec 14, 2011, at 1:58 PM, 123hop at comcast.net wrote:


> Exactly.
>
> Joanna
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 6:00 PM, <123hop at comcast.net> wrote:
>> Kinda lame, and the elephant in the room: black people's experience with
law enforcement and prisons is not even mentioned.
>
> As a tweet put it:
>
> "Oh? The NYPD are treating you badly? Violent for no reason?
> Weird." - Black People
>
> --
> Andy
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