[lbo-talk] My Letter To CH

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Fri Dec 16 15:12:22 PST 2011


here's the thread where Jesse Lemisch complained that people were piling on about Ellen Willis only hours after her death was announced.

Lemisch was mocked for being a member of the decorum police for thinking people should respect the dead and not criticize them.

http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&site=webhp&source=hp&q=lbo-talk.org+%22ellen+willis+dies%22&pbx=1&oq=lbo-talk.org+%22ellen+willis+dies%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=1466l9594l0l9861l38l32l2l0l0l1l262l4588l11.13.8l34l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=3896cd57a393e6da&biw=1229&bih=509

http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&site=webhp&source=hp&q=lbo-talk.org+%22decorum+police%22&pbx=1&oq=lbo-talk.org+%22decorum+police%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=22554l24671l1l24877l14l11l0l0l0l3l199l1442l5.6l11l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=3896cd57a393e6da&biw=1229&bih=509

<> I'd completely forgotten anyone here knew him. As far as I was <> concerned, all I have ever read was bad stuff about the guy and, in <> fact, when I bothered to say nice things about God is Not Great, I got <> crapped on here at the list for daring to say anything nice. <> <> We had this conversation when some feminists passed, and I believe <> there was a spirited defense of the right to say shitty things about <> people right after their death. I assumed the same habits tolerated <> in the past would be now and especially to someone who, in my reading <> of responses to him on this list, was that he was seen as a vile <> character for his stance on the war, etc. <> <> Now that I know that there are special rules for Hitch - sometimes <> it's like that, only his friends can shit on him! - my deepest <> apologies. Please, friends of Hitch, post when the grss is grown! <> <> <> I've always had the opinion (not an intellectual opinion, but a <> strong <> <> emotional conviction) that at the very least if you were going to <> piss <> <> on someones grave you should at least wait until the grass is green <> on <> <> it. That mostly the recently dead get a partial pass , if for no <> other <> <> reason, the feelings of their survivors. There are exceptions. I <> don't <> <> hold this opinion absolutely. But (again in my opinion, not backed <> by <> <> any reasoning) the exceptions should be really rare. <> <> <> <> On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> <> <> wrote: <> <>> <> <>> On Dec 16, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Dennis Claxton wrote: <> <>> <> <>>> At 11:38 AM 12/16/2011, // ravi wrote: <> <>>> <> <>>>> Surely it is not that you think the rest of the world should <> <>>>> celebrate or tolerate Hitchens because he was sweet to you? <> <>>> <> <>>> He was a friend of some people here and they deserve our <> <>>> condolences. <> <>> <> <>> Aside from taking some personal offense at the hostility, it's <> also <> <>> rather one-dimensional. The guy was complicated. He did many good <> <>> things in his life, and many awful ones too. His death is a good <> <>> occasion for reflecting on human complexity. His grave isn't one <> <>> that should be pissed on. <> <>> <> <>> Doug <> <>> ___________________________________ <> <>> http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/mailman/listinfo/lbo-talk <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> -- <> <> Facebook: Gar Lipow  Twitter: GarLipow <> <> Grist Blog: http://www.grist.org/member/1598 <> <> Static page: http://www.nohairshirts.com <> <> <> <> ___________________________________ <> <> http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/mailman/listinfo/lbo-talk <> <> <> <> <> -- <> http://cleandraws.com <> Wear Clean Draws <> ('coz there's 5 million ways to kill a CEO) <> <> <> ___________________________________ <> http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/mailman/listinfo/lbo-talk <>

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