On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 3:12 PM, shag carpet bomb <shag at cleandraws.com> wrote:
> here's the thread where Jesse Lemisch complained that people were
> piling on about Ellen Willis only hours after her death was announced.
>
> Lemisch was mocked for being a member of the decorum police for
> thinking people should respect the dead and not criticize them.
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> http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&site=webhp&source=hp&q=lbo-talk.org+%22ellen+willis+dies%22&pbx=1&oq=lbo-talk.org+%22ellen+willis+dies%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=1466l9594l0l9861l38l32l2l0l0l1l262l4588l11.13.8l34l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=3896cd57a393e6da&biw=1229&bih=509
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> http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&site=webhp&source=hp&q=lbo-talk.org+%22decorum+police%22&pbx=1&oq=lbo-talk.org+%22decorum+police%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=22554l24671l1l24877l14l11l0l0l0l3l199l1442l5.6l11l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=3896cd57a393e6da&biw=1229&bih=509
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> <> I'd completely forgotten anyone here knew him. As far as I was
> <> concerned, all I have ever read was bad stuff about the guy and, in
> <> fact, when I bothered to say nice things about God is Not Great, I
> got
> <> crapped on here at the list for daring to say anything nice.
> <>
> <> We had this conversation when some feminists passed, and I believe
> <> there was a spirited defense of the right to say shitty things
> about
> <> people right after their death. I assumed the same habits
> tolerated
> <> in the past would be now and especially to someone who, in my
> reading
> <> of responses to him on this list, was that he was seen as a vile <>
> character for his stance on the war, etc.
> <>
> <> Now that I know that there are special rules for Hitch - sometimes
> <> it's like that, only his friends can shit on him! - my deepest
> <> apologies. Please, friends of Hitch, post when the grss is grown! <>
> <> <> I've always had the opinion (not an intellectual opinion, but a
> <> strong
> <> <> emotional conviction) that at the very least if you were going to
> <> piss
> <> <> on someones grave you should at least wait until the grass is green
> <> on
> <> <> it. That mostly the recently dead get a partial pass , if for no
> <> other
> <> <> reason, the feelings of their survivors. There are exceptions. I
> <> don't
> <> <> hold this opinion absolutely. But (again in my opinion, not
> backed
> <> by
> <> <> any reasoning) the exceptions should be really rare.
> <> <>
> <> <> On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Doug Henwood
> <dhenwood at panix.com>
> <> <> wrote:
> <> <>>
> <> <>> On Dec 16, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Dennis Claxton wrote:
> <> <>>
> <> <>>> At 11:38 AM 12/16/2011, // ravi wrote:
> <> <>>>
> <> <>>>> Surely it is not that you think the rest of the world should
> <> <>>>> celebrate or tolerate Hitchens because he was sweet to you?
> <> <>>>
> <> <>>> He was a friend of some people here and they deserve our
> <> <>>> condolences.
> <> <>>
> <> <>> Aside from taking some personal offense at the hostility, it's
> <> also
> <> <>> rather one-dimensional. The guy was complicated. He did many good
> <> <>> things in his life, and many awful ones too. His death is a good
> <> <>> occasion for reflecting on human complexity. His grave isn't one
> <> <>> that should be pissed on.
> <> <>>
> <> <>> Doug
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