On Dec 22, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Wojtek S wrote:
> Marv: " It also seems from here that the opposition to the
> anti-democratic "European Union" is not all or mostly nationalist, and
> even among those workers who present themselves as such, nationalism -
> as someone once put it - is but the "envelope" of their social (class)
> consciousness."
>
> [WS:] Is it not what killed the Second International or is a driving
> force of the opposition to immigrants? Nationalism seems more of paper
> weight that quashes workers' consciousness than envelope that carries
> it.
Is it "nationalism" to resist the diktats of authoritarian technocrats (should they be called Das Vierte Reich or Die Neue Neue Ordnung) ?
Shane Mage
"Thunderbolt steers all things." Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr. 64