[lbo-talk] Businesses are refusing to hire the unemployed,

Jeffrey Fisher jeff.jfisher at gmail.com
Sat Feb 19 08:48:34 PST 2011


A little kicking around turned up one article in particular that seemed aimed at our question here (or rather one of them), specifically, whether moralism about unemployment (framed by this author in terms of "market justice") cuts across socio-economic strata. Note references in this article to other studies demonstrating that it does, and then zeroing in on the role of "media" in the process of socialization of attitudes regarding market justice. There is a question of whether what I mean by moralism is the same as market justice, but on the face of it I think it is.

http://www.allacademic.com//meta/p_mla_apa_research_citation/0/2/3/0/2/pages23029/p23029-1.php

--- One characteristic of market economy is distributional inequality. Research indicates, however, that some disadvantaged groups, particularly unemployed people who might suffer the greatest economic and social loss in the process of market selection, do not necessarily challenge market justice more than others either in Western countries or in post-socialist societies (Kluegel et al, 1999; Kreidl, 2000; Whyte and Han, 2003; Han, 2004). Scholars hypothesize that this striking finding may result from the countervailing effects of socialization of market justice norms and beliefs through such institutions as media, school, workplace, family, and church (Han, 2004; Kluegel and Smith, 1986; Whyte and Han, 2003; Whyte, 2005). Being theoretically plausible as it is, this speculation has not been tested by systematic empirical research. This study intends to fill in this gap by examining how media, one of the most important socializing agencies, affects legitimation of market justice by unemployed people. ---

My point is mainly that I think the moralistic attitude is not restricted to the yuppie classes.

I can't access this journal, but the following also looked pertinent.

*Attitudes* *Toward* *the* *Unemployed*. Authors: McFadyen, Ruth G.<http://web.ebscohost.com.pioproxy.carrollu.edu/ehost/detail?hid=13&sid=ef4dbb2a-89f0-4c39-9f4a-74f2bc44def0%40sessionmgr11&vid=4&bdata=JnNpdGU9ZWhvc3QtbGl2ZQ%3d%3d> 1 Source: Human Relations<http://web.ebscohost.com.pioproxy.carrollu.edu/ehost/detail?hid=13&sid=ef4dbb2a-89f0-4c39-9f4a-74f2bc44def0%40sessionmgr11&vid=4&bdata=JnNpdGU9ZWhvc3QtbGl2ZQ%3d%3d>; Feb98, Vol. 51 Issue 2, p179-199, 21p, 3 Charts Abstract: *The* present study examined whether political orientation, experience of unemployment or with *the**unemployed*, and/or occupational background predicted three dimensions of *attitudes* expressed *toward**the* *unemployed* in conversation. *The* three dimensions were: nature of attitude, variability in attitude, and form of attitude. Sixty-seven employed individuals participated. Political orientation was found to be a good predictor of *the * nature of and variability in *attitudes* *toward* *the* *unemployed*. It was also a good predictor of *the* form with which *attitudes* were expressed in general, with political moderates using fewer generalizations than those who were politically polarized, but it was not a good predictor of *the* form that people used to express particular types of attitude. Occupational group also predicted *the* nature of and variability in *attitudes* *toward*

*the* *unemployed*, with other factors constant. Personal experience was a good predictor of *the* form of attitude expressed. Those with more experience with *unemployed* people tended to use fewer generalizations. However, personal experience of unemployment or with *the**unemployed* did not predict *the* nature of *attitudes* expressed. [ABSTRACT FROM AUTHOR]

On the other hand, there's also this: http://www.sfi.dk/graphics/ESPAnet/papers/Blekesaune.pdf

--- Findings indicate that the nation level is important in shaping public attitudes toward welfare state policies in industrialized nations, and that both situational and ideological factors play a role. Apparently, various nations generate different public beliefs about national social problems and about the relationship between individuals, the state and other institutions. Eventually, these understandings and beliefs influence popular attitudes regarding what kind of policies the state should pursue, and who should benefit. ---

Quick searches on the other question, the conventional wisdom that it is easier to get a job when you have one, isn't turning anything up for me, no data I mean, although in my experience we all believed it to be true. Here the yuppie factor may actually apply, in the sense that the conventional wisdom probably applies more to professional jobs. But, again, maybe not. But I need to postpone looking for anything.

j

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Jeffrey Fisher <jeff.jfisher at gmail.com>wrote:


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> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Wojtek S <wsoko52 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Your argument that unemployment carries a moral stigma fits that frame.
>> But
>> that would be more of a yuppie thing as their work seem to be their
>> identity
>> politics, no?
>>
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> Sounds to me like pretty straightforward bourgeois morality. Or am I
> speaking in shibboleths now? I suspect for a lot of people their work has an
> awful lot to do with the way they think about themselves. But, as with the
> contention that it's always harder to find work when you're out of work, I'm
> pulling that out of the air, so I might just be plain wrong.
>
> But the moralism of it all seems pretty pervasive, and it seems to cut
> across class. There must be studies on these kinds of attitudes, segmented
> by things like race, income, ed level, and so on. But I don't have time at
> the moment to go looking for it. Come to think of it, I shouldn't be writing
> this email. :)
>
> j
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