[lbo-talk] Berlet on Democracy Now

Shane Mage shmage at pipeline.com
Wed Jan 12 19:50:49 PST 2011


On Jan 12, 2011, at 10:17 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:


> As I understand it, there's no consensus among historians
Apart from some Nazi-symps no historian can doubt the direct responsibility of Göring, since it was described in detail by Gisevius at the Nürnburg trial.
> on the real responsibility for the Reichstag Fire, in spite of a
> general agreement that it was set by a mentally-disturbed Marinus
> van der Lubbe
who had already been in the hands of the Gestapo and was dragged out of the Reichstag by them with the whole building already ablaze.
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>> On Jan 12, 2011, at 9:23 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
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>>> The Tucson shooting is fast becoming a Reichstag fire for American
>>> liberals - a crime perpetrated by a crazy person, employed to
>>> pillory those who have unacceptable political ideas...
>>
>> Do you seriously imagine that you can get away with portraying the
>> Reichstag Fire, the signature event and emblem and decisive coup of
>> the Nazi regime, as "a crime perpetrated by a crazy person?"
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>> Shane Mage
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>> This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it
>> always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire,
>> kindling in measures and going out in measures."
>>
>> Herakleitos of Ephesos



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