[lbo-talk] Mark Ames uncorks

[Wojtek S]

[WS:]  I do it on personal experience (I was born there and travel there
regularly) and statistics.  And honestly, I do not give a flying fuck what
Europeans say about Muslims, Gypsies or  other nationalities, including
their own - speaking up one's mind is one thing and the reality of social
inequality is something different.  Americans may be far more politically
correct  in what they say, but they act differently.  Racial segregation and
class stratification are much higher here than in Europe.

So if you want to shed crocodile tears about bad things that Europeans say -
that is your right.  But please be assured that I am not buying it, I really
do not give a flying fuck about it just as you do not seem to give a flying
fuck about what people on this side of the pond say.  As they say, a fool
tries to convince me with his arguments, a wise man  with my own. So if your
want to sell me your view of Europe, please use arguments that have some
traction.  Otherwise, let's remain civil and spare ourselves needless
verbiage that is not going to change any minds - and limit our conversation
to weather and culture.

Wojtek

On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Angelus Novus <fuerdenkommunismus at yahoo.com
> wrote:


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> Wojtek wrote:
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> > That is why in the EU hateful political rhetoric is limited to the
> > fringe right.
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> Oh sure.  That's why Thilo Sarrazin's book went straight to the top of the
> bestseller lists in Germany, right?  Because hateful rhetoric is just
> oh-so-marginal in utopian Europe.
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> Question for American liberal Pollyanna Europhiles: Do you guys actually,
> like, you know, read anything about Europe in the newspapers or magazines,
> or are you all just basing your utopian projections on your viewing La Dolce
> Vita on DVD or something?
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