[lbo-talk] James McMurtry - "We can't make it here"??

SA s11131978 at gmail.com
Tue Jul 5 10:53:31 PDT 2011


On 7/5/2011 11:20 AM, Miles Jackson wrote:


> Actually, that's exactly where we agree. I emphatically reject the
> idea that all values are the direct product of capitalist social relations

I must have misinterpreted you then:

http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2009/2009-March/004457.html


> Nietzsche is very good on this: morality is a product of power
> relations, and it is informative to trace the genealogy of certain
> moral systems (e.g., Christian "slave" morality). However, the moral
> system is always the product of the historical moment, not the cause.
> To explain a social movement or a social transformation by appealing
> to the moral beliefs of individuals is a fundamental category error
> that--not coincidentally!--is endemic to capitalist social relations
> (e.g., "people are poor because they don't have a good work ethic").
>
> From this perspective, speculations about the morals of people
> supporting or resisting social change are irrelevant. We know that
> moral systems will shift when historical transformations occur, so the
> important thing is political action to transform society. The moral
> beliefs that justify and reinforce the new social conditions will follow.
>
> Miles
>



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