[lbo-talk] Lenin: On the slogan of a United States of Europe

c b cb31450 at gmail.com
Thu Jul 28 06:59:56 PDT 2011

Eric Beck

On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:41 PM, c b <cb31450 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Self-determination means that a people with the characteristics of an
> independent nation

By which you mean race, right? Or culture or ethnicity, if you want to use euphemisms? (And by you I mean history.)

^^^^^ CB: No, not race. Yes culture , but not euphemistically, but as in anthropology: tradition, language, history, land. In Lenin on self-determination has to do with the right of oppressed nations to secede from oppressor, colonialist nations and form their own state. Thus, there were national liberation movements in Korea, Viet Nam, etc.

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