[lbo-talk] Weiner unhid!

Michael Smith mjs at smithbowen.net
Mon Jun 13 14:39:07 PDT 2011


On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 16:24:28 -0400 SA <s11131978 at gmail.com> wrote:


> businesses can't be brought to be nice to workers through moralism;
> consumers can't be brought to use less carbon through moralism; and by
> the same measure, leftists can't be brought by moralism not to vote for
> the Democrats.

Couldn't agree with you more. But I think you're mistaken in characterizing my attitude as "moralistic".


> ridicule and
> invective -- won't help.

I dunno about that. They have their place. Ridicule and invective have a long and honorable history in political discourse.


> Only strategy will. I don't have a twelve-point
> plan for this, but if such a plan existed it would surely involve, at
> some stage, working with Democrats, both elected ones and rank-and-filers.

We're all Waiting For Strategy, aren't we? And surely no one would exclude working with Democrats, if Democrats were willing to work conscientiously and whole-heartedly for something one might support. (The recent history of the anti-war movement offers a useful chart of some shoals in these waters, though.)

But one would be ill-advised to drop or soft-pedal one's polemic against the DP for the sake of "working with Democrats". If they're not willing to agree to disagree on this point, then they're false friends.

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