[lbo-talk] Weiner unhid!

[brad]

Carrol wrote:
The problem with the DP is NOT that "they don't
support our whole program." The 'trouble' with the DP is that they
constitute the main enemy. I don't 'criticize' them anymore than
Churchill 'criticized' Hitler. They (or rather it, the leadership)
oppose (quite successfully most of the time) everything a "left" (if one
existed) would favor.
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This is an example of the exact thing I was saying: you don't
understand US politics, or politics in general, if you think the DP is
monolithic and will always oppose everything a [the] "left" would
[does] favor.  How is the DP the main enemy?  You act as if a member
of the DP has never and could never do anything good.  As I said, way
too much faith in liberal democracy to only meet the needs of capital
and not workers.  I am afraid it is more contingent than that.

I would posit that political action comes to a stop around elections
not because of the DP but because of the leadership of those movements
who have too much faith in the system to screw workers and stop all
action outside of voting.  It might be interesting to watch what is
happening with SEIU and others calls to ratchet up actions and to not
give unconditional support to the DP (I am not holding my breath
though, but it makes my point about it being a problem of leadership).

And your semantic bullshit only makes you look like a fool.  Reminds
me of the Pomo profs I had who would attack endlessly how a student
said or wrote something only because they were completely inept to
deal with what they said or wrote (which is pretty much what most of
Pomo is: attacks on form not substance).

Brad