[lbo-talk] An Orgy of Speculation?

Carrol Cox cbcox at ilstu.edu
Mon Mar 14 17:51:13 PDT 2011


I'm no longer interested in responses from those who simply have not read any of the relevant material. It was useful for a number of years to develop my own understanding, but has become a bore.

Tamás, Telling the Truth about Class Ellen Wood, Collected Works Fredy Perlaman, Introduction to Rubin Postone

One remarkable feature of Tomas is that he apparently has read the total library of Marxist works published in English; Americans appear to have a overwhelming need to pretend nothing (except for a few passing fads like Zizek) is being written in Europe.

Carrol

-----Original Message----- From: lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org [mailto:lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org] On Behalf Of Dissenting Wren Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 7:37 PM To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] An Orgy of Speculation?

In a society with such foresight, Zuckerberg would have been sent to the gulag before he could have spawned this monstrosity. And Woz would be running Apple.

----- Original Message ---- From: SA <s11131978 at gmail.com> To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 7:19:51 PM Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] An Orgy of Speculation?

On 3/14/2011 3:04 PM, Doug Henwood wrote:


>> The problem is that exploitation is _not_ the major objection to
capitalism.
> It's not? What is?

They never say it in simple words, but the argument is this: In a non-centrally-planned economy, the economy evolves without every detail being consciously determined. Therefore we are unfree, slaves to a machine we ourselves built.

E.g., when Zuckerberg made Facebook, it set in motion disruptive forces over

which we have no control. If we were truly free, Zuckerberg would have made Facebook as part of an integrally configured 5 Year Plan, in which all the subsequently needed economic adjustments would have been determined not through "blind economic forces" but through democratically planned foresight.

SA

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