[lbo-talk] Making it harder to vote

Carrol Cox cbcox at ilstu.edu
Thu Mar 24 18:30:28 PDT 2011


My daughter points out that when the British faced a serious terrorist threat from the IRA, their response did NOT include disruption of normal life. No checkpoints, etc. They took their losses but kept normal society. Much cheaper that way.

Wails about IDs are wails about one of the lesser side effects of the War against Terror. Fight that when we can. In the meantime this endless wailing about minor symptoms of an increasingly oppressive society give me a pain.

See Part 2 (not posted yet; Part 1 will appear today or tomorrow) of my post on Disinterested/Uninterested.

Carrol

P.S. Probably making it harder to vote is about as serious as (say) would be the rationing of root beer. Who wants to vote anyway.

-----Original Message----- From: lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org [mailto:lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Grimes Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 7:10 PM To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Making it harder to vote


> Maybe I am missing something and should be clued in?
>
> (And no, I am not agreeing with Republican disenfranchise efforts - in any


> state.)
>
> - Bill

I think what you are missing is the idea that we (the people) are supposed to deal with asshole public institutions to prove we are who we know we are,

and that we exist and that we have fucking rights... period.

The same thing goes for education. A mexican looking kid has to prove where he was born? Fuck you. Oh, he speaks Spanish, so fucking what?

I mean the whole conceptual frame is totally fucked up. There is no liberal about it.

This guy came in the ER in a traffic accident bleeding all over the place. We are supposed to check ID? Screw you.

I know you get it by now, so ...

I'll explain how I came to see the ridiculousness of this ID bullshit. I needed to get transcripts from my state college for some reason I forget. They would not accept a driver's license (this was before picture id's) They

required a birth certificate. Go ahead and see what bullshit you have to go through for a birth certificate, which also has to be notarized. So I came back with my official LA General photocopy--nothing less will do---with its official stamp, and then the little student jerks in the office made me fill

out and sign a bunch of forms and the transcripts were sent to where ever. I

did get a copy---stamped applicant copy---just in case I was up to something

funny. As if the applicant copy was suspect.

Sorry. I just finished B. Traven's The Death Ship, where ID is the twist of events and fate that follow. The central character is a merchant seaman whose ship leaves without him, but with his passport and seaman's card. He is totally fucked. A stateless person with worse, no money. He discovers where stateless people end up, on ships set to sink with all hands (no witnesses with unproven identities in any case) for their insurance premiums.

The novel was written in the early 1930s when there was still a living memory that at one time (prior to WWI) nobody needed papers (except Jews) to cross borders. The sense of nation state was still ambiguous.

Now look at us. Who asks for Capital's passport and birth certificate?

CG

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