[lbo-talk] Occupy Oakland's imminent implosion and the wider effects

Tayssir John Gabbour tjg at pentaside.org
Fri Nov 11 01:26:02 PST 2011


On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 2:56 AM, Bill Bartlett <billbartlett at aapt.net.au> wrote:
> He's caught me out. I admit I knew that what Tayssir was actually saying
> was, to the effect that, if property damage doesn't really hurt the
> employing class, then it is *not* futile to employ such childish tactics.

Ah... maybe I don't have the hang of understanding this humor thing, myself. I kinda always assume I'll get flamed here. ;)

Well, what I actually meant (and wasn't being clear) was that so many people have engaged in sabotage against their employers. Management lit keeps claiming that people rarely do it out of need, but rather, "The employee feels that the business or company has wronged or mistreated them in some way." [1]

(Of course, the same lit never says, "So stop being dicks to your employees," as far as I've seen. They advocate prosecution, checking for criminal records, etc.)

So, I expect a lot of sympathy. Those who know about Whole Foods' union-busting may root for defacement that advocates STRIKE. Heck, it's probably be a lot more effective if they spraypainted the moralizing UNIONBUSTER — studies show that people are much more inclined to agree if there's a reason. (Though if they're interrupted and weren't careful, it could go wrong: UNIONBUST.)

All the best,

Tj

[1] http://www.ifpo.org/articlebank/employee_theft.html

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 2:56 AM, Bill Bartlett <billbartlett at aapt.net.au> wrote:
> At 1:46 AM +0100 11/11/11, Tayssir John Gabbour wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 4:20 AM, Bill Bartlett <billbartlett at aapt.net.au>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  At 4:44 PM +0100 6/11/11, Tayssir John Gabbour condemned the Black Bloc
>>>  thusly:
>>>
>>>>  So, if 25-40% of employees steal, what is the reaction of a
>>>>  significant segment of the working class, when Whole Foods must pay a
>>>>  rounding-error for new windows?
>>>
>>  > If property damage doesn't really hurt the employing class, then it is
>>>
>>>  futile and counter-productive to employ such childish tactics, I hear
>>> you
>>>  Tayssir.
>>
>> Just a quick note: This man has just twisted my words to mean the
>> opposite of what I said. He did not, in fact, "hear me."
>
> He's caught me out. I admit I knew that what Tayssir was actually saying
> was, to the effect that, if property damage doesn't really hurt the
> employing class, then it is *not* futile to employ such childish tactics.
>
> Despite this I pretended he was saying the exact opposite. Guilty. It was a
> futile attempt at humour. I can't seem to get the hang of this humour thing.
>
> Bill Bartlett
> Bracknell Tas
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