[lbo-talk] Anarchism in The Weekly Standard

[shag carpet bomb]

Did the Owenites want to finance the commune with debt (they don't
intend to pay back) and become a economically successful and viable
alternative to capitalism so that more and more people will join it? I
was reading up on the ideas behind the Oakland Commune and that seems
to be a major point. The idea is to fund the commune by any means
necessary and to present an economically viable alternative that is so
successful that people will fight for it - much as the bourgeoisie
(it's culture, ideals, values, practices, etc.) emerged *prior* to the
bourgeois revolution.

Have been curious about this but haven't had time to do the research.

<>  You are right. There is not much similarity with Owen either. One
<> similarity is that they are trying within the space they are occupying
<> to set up new social relations that embody their ideals . Propaganda
<> of the deed. The Utopian socialists also tried to set up alternative
<> societies in sync with their ideals. But OWS is not following any
<> blueprints for an ideal socialist society.
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<> Cheers, ken
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<> Anarchism never had a fascination with Utopian socialist schemes. 
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<>>________________________________
<>> From: ken hanly <northsunm at yahoo.com>
<>>To: "lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org" <lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org>
<>>Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 8:17 PM
<>>Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Anarchism in The Weekly Standard
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<>> The article was a good read and there do seem to be family
<>> resemblances between utopian socialism and some in the OWS groups.
<>> However the part about Fourier is rather ridiculous. There is none of
<>> the detailed blueprints for future society associated with what is
<>> happening as far as I can glean from a long distance away!
<>>
<>>Cheers, ken
<>> 
<>>Blog:  http://kenthink7.blogspot.com/index.html
<>>Blog:  http://kencan7.blogspot.com/index.html
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<>>
<>>________________________________
<>>From: nathan tankus <somekindofheterodox at gmail.com>
<>>To: Lbo Talk Lbo Talk <lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org>
<>>Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 11:50:09 AM
<>>Subject: [lbo-talk]  Anarchism in The Weekly Standard
<>>
<>>i read the weekly standard every day so i read this when they posted
<>>it. the entire framing was completely stupid but you're correct, the
<>>writer does have a decent understanding of the underlying history.
<>>
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<>>-Nathan Tankus
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