[lbo-talk] motherfuckers dealing with abstract, intangible shit up in Wall St.

Wojtek S wsoko52 at gmail.com
Wed Nov 23 09:06:19 PST 2011


Eric: "So the goal of socialism is to change minds?"

[WS:] Most certainly. There will be no change in institutions without changing people's minds.

What has been debated is which comes first, changing minds or changing institutions, which to my mind is the chicken and egg fallacy. You change them both at the same time.

To put it at a lower level of abstraction - one cannot even think of changing political and economic institutions in this country before the majority of people start changing their views of business, government, and society.

Wojtek

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Eric Beck <ersatzdog at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 9:01 AM, c b <cb31450 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> CB: I'd say the opposition is spontaneous/socialist conscious.
>> Spontaneous action is done with very little theory or consciousness of
>> class struggle, the goal of socialism.
>
> So the goal of socialism is to change minds?
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