[lbo-talk] Why not Paul

Shane Mage shmage at pipeline.com
Mon Nov 28 12:30:57 PST 2011


On Nov 28, 2011, at 3:04 PM, Wojtek S wrote:


> Shane: "For all the outrageous things the Repugs have said, I doubt
> that put together they add up to anything close to what Obama
> perpetrated in his boasting about murdering, in foreign countries not
> at war with the US, an unidentified man that he called "Osama Bin
> Laden" and a US citizen not even charged with any crime named Anwar
> el-Alaki.
>
> [WS:] This is truly pathetic. A frontal assault on the working
> class, massive deregulation, and starting an unprovoked war amounts
> nothing to the failure of following the niceties of the due process.
> Shysterism of the worst kind.

You're talking about what Obama did, but I was just talking about what he and most of the Repug candidates *said*. But if you think political assassination is about "niceties of due process" you're welcome to all the Obamerde you can stomach.

Shane Mage

"Thunderbolt steers all things." Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr. 64


> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Shane Mage <shmage at pipeline.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Nov 28, 2011, at 11:32 AM, Jordan Hayes wrote:
>>
>>> Shane Mage writes:
>>>
>>>> If you were to make a list (a short one, to be sure) of everything
>>>> sensible said in the past year by any of the Official candidates
>>>> (Obama +
>>>> the GOPers) you will find that a hefty majority will be sourced
>>>> to...
>>>>
>>>> Ron Paul.
>>>
>>> Probably also the case that if you made a list of all the
>>> outrageous,
>>> completely unacceptable ones you'd find him "winning" that race,
>>> too.
>>
>> For all the outrageous things the Repugs have said, I doubt that put
>> together they add up to anything close to what Obama perpetrated in
>> his
>> boasting about murdering, in foreign countries not at war with the
>> US, an
>> unidentified man that he called "Osama Bin Laden" and a US citizen
>> not even
>> charged with any crime named Anwar el-Alaki.
>>
>>> I mean, who else out there is against the Civil Rights Act
>>
>> which is not, and never again will be, a political issue
>>
>>> and the Bill of Rights (as applied to the States) ...?
>>
>> I'm unaware of what Ron Paul has said about 14th-Amendment
>> jurisprudence,
>> but Obama and all the rest are manifestly against the Bill of
>> Rights as
>> applied to the Federal Government as well as the States. On all
>> practical
>> political matters, moreover, Ron Paul is the only visible (Buddy
>> Roemer
>> having no visibility) candidate in favor of the Bill of Rights.
>>
>>> The fact that some of your opinions align with his (for no doubt
>>> radically
>>> different reasons) doesn't make him worthy of your support.
>>
>> Of course not, as long as he stays in the G-D OP.
>>
>> But if he enters the race as an independent against Obama and some
>> Repug
>> clown (and the usual slew of futile leftist sects) he would be more
>> than
>> worthy of my support--and of yours as well.
>>
>>
>> Shane Mage
>>
>> "scientific discovery is basically recognition of obvious realities
>> that self-interest or ideology have kept everybody from paying
>> attention to"
>>
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