PS. If I may, I'd also like to recommend, on the subject of conservative thinking, Geoff Waite's book, "Nietzsche's Corpse," which contains _inter alia_ a brilliant excision of Leo Strauss from the canons of post-contemporary thought. It is a long elaboration of Bataille's comment that "Nietzsche's position is the only one outside of communism." Another book in need of updating--it's from 1996.
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 8:39 AM, shag carpet bomb <shag at cleandraws.com>wrote:
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>
> show up with Ivan!
>
> for that reason, but many more: Can the bull horn business until the
> second time you do it.
>
> This time, the point is to actually engage with people, not the time
> to push the envelope and put the focus on an arrest/confrontation when
> it should be on your words. You need to contact dingy there, Olberman,
> and get on Current TV. Or someone needs to start a contingent of
> lboers to do it. I would but i'm completely buried with work which is
> slow because I cracked my tailbone in an accident Saturday. I'm
> working from home...
>
> anyway, don't run around engaging in stunts right now. you'll just get
> arrested and what's the point of that? you want to get heard or not?
>
> aside from which, although it's painfully agonizing and slow, the
> people's mic *is* how you connect with people. the deal here is kind
> of beautiful, if you think about it: it physically engages people in
> hearing you. they have to repeat your words. they have to freakin'
> listen. whatever you think about those theories of different kinds of
> learners - tactile, auditory, etc., - i think there is some merit to
> this for everyone. Call and response with the people's mic is a ritual
> and you need riturals to build solidarity. why just give them words
> when you can build a connection that will bring the words home?
>
> On solidarity. you have to work, together, to communicate in a way
> that everyone is fully cognizant of. you become aware of the human act
> of cooperation, like hauling buckets on a water line. You become
> grateful to each other - to them, and they you - for each doing your
> part. This builds what Larry Hirschhorn called "warmth" (eros) in his
> Freudian analysis of organizational behavior.
>
> so no, don't listen to ppl advocating pushing the envelope. you and
> everyone else from lbo at the teach in need to engage 100%. save the
> stunt for later because it's going to be ongoing teach ins. this isn't
> just a a one off teach in. you're going to approach them to ask for
> several teach ins. this tells them that you believe in them, that
> they're going long distance - and so are you.
>
> also, get on olberman's show - or at least let him know you're doing
> the teach in, inspired by his show. appeal to him on that level....
> point to Taryn's blog post inviting intellectuals to participate.
> Explain that you were inspired to do it all coz of him and Taryn.
>
>
> >
> > don't you know Graeber Doug? Ask him about the teach-in. Apparently,
> > these guys just got invited by whoever was on the committee tasked
> > with organizing the teach-ins. Or shit, just show up and start asking
> > people how to do it.
> >
> > And yeah, who cares about self promotion. They are people who want to
> > hear you. And by the way, contact Taryn at Plutocracy Files. She's the
> > one who accused lefties of sitting on the sidelines, pissing and
> > moaning. She said that your job was to show up and come up with the
> > policy, analysis, etc. It's what you do, not what they do...
> >
> >
> >> On Oct 4, 2011, at 9:19 PM, // ravi wrote:
> >>
> >>> The trifling level of self-promotion you do on FB is downright
> >>> unAmerican :-)
> >>
> >> I'm taking that as a challenge, comrade.
> >>
> >> Doug
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