[lbo-talk] query: from anarchist to marxist???

Wojtek S wsoko52 at gmail.com
Tue Oct 18 06:09:45 PDT 2011


[WS:] True, but the current situation is that there is a lot of politics of going or having to go, but no clear idea where to. As they used say on the other side of the Iron Curtain "They build fucking roads, but there is nowhere to go to."

I think Lange can inspire finding the answer "where to" more than any other "classical thinker." But I do not think that any "classical thinker" can tell us how to get there form the mess we are now in. We must figure it out ourselves.

BTW, the main strength of the "old Left" (circa 1917) was that it had a vision where to go, not the strategy how to get there. Just,read the "Internationale" - it is all about a new world in which "we," who are nothing today, will be everything. And it is that vision that made Communism so attractive to so many, despite its stumbling to get there - one step forward, two steps backwards, or was it supposed to be the other way around? It is the strategic vision that appeals to the masses, not the asinine bean counting and assembling laundry lists by focus groups and consultants (as the Democrats do.)

Wojtek

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Max Sawicky <sawicky at verizon.net> wrote:
> Been there, read that, liked it, but there's nothing about the politics of
> getting there.
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> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Wojtek S <wsoko52 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> [WS:] I made a specific reference to what I believe might work (Oskar
>> Lange, his Economic Theory of Socialism to be more specific,) so read
>> the fucking book before you start criticizing, man.
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