[lbo-talk] query: from anarchist to marxist???

Alan Rudy alan.rudy at gmail.com
Tue Oct 18 09:05:02 PDT 2011


Woj, what Max said. So my question remains.

I read reviews of Lange's stuff years ago and so had a sense of what you were pointing to, thanks for again assuming folks here don't know what we're talking about AND for, as has often been the case, not answering the question.

You have a future dream image of state-based experts using sophisticated statistical measures to assess the utility of socialist market price points as a means of allocating resources for the production and distribution of various goods, and presumably services. This is in line with your commitments to left Progressivism, a hopeful left Weberian technocratophilia. Not only is there nothing about the process by which the world might move from here to there but there is nothing but silent glosses over Old Left demands for democratizing production or New Left demands for democratizing state bureaucracies... to my mind, at least, socialism's not socialism unless production, representation and administration are democratized. But, heck, its probably easier not to have to risk doing anything, you know like working with people to make change, and be able to carp from the sidelines while holding on to a post-processual/post-struggle dream of benevolent scientific management...

A

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Max Sawicky <sawicky at verizon.net> wrote:


> Been there, read that, liked it, but there's nothing about the politics of
> getting there.
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Wojtek S <wsoko52 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > . . .
> > [WS:] I made a specific reference to what I believe might work (Oskar
> > Lange, his Economic Theory of Socialism to be more specific,) so read
> > the fucking book before you start criticizing, man.
> >
> >



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