as much as humanly possible. if you feel respected, appreciated, etc. in this world you've created with others, you'll take a rubber bullet to the forehead and keep coming back for more. You'll dance in the streets as cops attack you. you're willing to fight for another world you've come to believe is possible. As Polletta points out, it creates selves more, albeit imperfectly, capable of sustaining the long haul, when things are not so exciting, when everything's died down, when it's fizzled and you are back to your community garden and staffing the rape crisis center.
as Malcom said at Bluestocking, it might be the case that there's lots of tension and bitter acrimony, almost complete lack of ideological agreement, but there's a reason why, when push comes to shove, you know you are going to fight that enemy and keep coming back for more.
How else does anyone expect they are going to take state power?
Dean worries about the lack of discipline. Dean thinks that people don't like discipline because of liberalism.
Really now.
*That's* what discipline looks like.
Dean told everyone that no one on the "anarchist" side really understood that you have to draw lines, make choices, and take sides. They didn't get politics because they were so full of touchy feely I'm ok you're Ok stuff. They could never have the discipline to struggle toward the communist horizon under such deplorable conditions.
Gosh.
I have no more tits to fall off.
<> [posted by Andrej Grubacic to Debate] <> <> Insane amount of violence in Oakland tonight. Much worse then during <> Oscar Grant riots. Many are injured. Broken limbs, hands, fingers. <> Oakland was a war zone. Police attacked women in wheelchairs, <> children. The protesters have been gassed at least 4 times this <> evening, and they are using sonic warfare as well as rubber bullets on <> unarmed civilians now. Thousands of people continuously tried to <> retake the plaza and regroup but tear gas, concussion grenades, and <> rubber bullets prevented them from taking over the plaza, at least for <> now. People were amazing. Atlanta Occupation was evicted few hours <> ago. Baltimore under attack. This appears to be a coordinated police <> action. It is not over (Oakland). People are dancing in the street. <> Police is back with flash bangs. New assembly is scheduled for <> tomorrow afternoon. <> <> Police launches tear gas, flash bang canisters into crowd: <> http://www.ktvu.com/video/29587140/index.html <> <> Oakland police fires teargas: <> <> http://gawker.com/5853372 <> <> Protester injured by rubber bullet: <> <> http://twitpic.com/75wrpb <> More tear gas video reports: <> <> https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=237706202950462 <> <> Occupy Atlanta: <> <> http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/occupy-atlanta-police-arrest-1209963.html <> <> <> -- <> Ciao, <> Andrej <> --- <> "This river here is the official geographical limit between the <> Balkans and Mitteleuropa [Central Europe]. So beware! On the other <> side: horror, Oriental despotism; women get beaten and raped and like <> it. On this side: Europe, civilization, women get beaten and raped but <> don't like it." <> Slavoj Zizek <> -- <> Andrej Grubacic PM Press Page <> http://www.pmpress.org/content/article.php?story=andrejgrubacic <> Z-Space: <> http://www.zcommunications.org/zspace/andrejgrubacic/ <> Global Balkans Network: <> www.globalbalkans.org <> _______________________________________________ <> Debate-list mailing list <> Debate-list at fahamu.org <> http://lists.fahamu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debate-list <> ___________________________________ <> http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/mailman/listinfo/lbo-talk <>
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