[lbo-talk] slogans from the 'cornfield'

Carrol Cox cbcox at ilstu.edu
Sun Oct 30 18:11:39 PDT 2011


Very possibly. It's worth pointing out that any discussion grounded in practice, which is necessary, will still often trigger bursts of the sort of acrimony exhibited here the last couple days. Often, not always, that acrimony will be absorbed by the necessity of working together on common projects (and of course face-to-face conflicts are often less acrimonious that debates of relative strangers in the abstracted context of a maillist. Misunderstandings still abound, but are a bit more resolvable in reference to ongoing visible activity.

Carrol

-----Original Message----- From: lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org [mailto:lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org] On Behalf Of martin schiller Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 7:58 PM To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org Subject: [lbo-talk] slogans from the 'cornfield'

On Oct 30, 2011, at 5:36 PM, Carrol Cox wrote:


> Marx speaks of an infant socialist society, as it emerges from
> the revolution, requiring a Working Parliament: that is, he insists that
> Parliament must be deeply involved in the implementation of the 'deciosns'
> it makes: he scoffs, that is, of a leadership, such as Dean's Central
> Committee of Experts) that lays out the strategy for others to timplement.
>

It has seemed to me that some people who've contributed to the discussion threads re OWS are seeing the formation of an infant 'socialist' society that is separate from the capitalist society - a social two-state 'solution' occupying separate layers of the same geography. At least that's how I read the reference to Bruce Sterling's 'Distraction', from a slacker, to which I noted no serious objections. It led me to my suggestion that 'slogans' would be a suitable discussion list topic. I certainly didn't expect that suggestion to result in quite as thorough a crit of slogans as CC provided - but I'll study it more to see if it applies to anything that I was thinking.

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