As far as I know, there is no serious resistance movement in Russia. And until one crystallizes, all possible tactics make some sense & my hackles rise when such get criticized by those who also don't have any idea of what is going on there.
I've made essentially the same objections over the last 18 months to free-floating 'criticism' of Wisconsin or Occupy. It is both absurd and offensive even yet to criticize those bundles of events. A movement _might_ yet crystallize from them and form a context within which criticism will make sense.
Carrol
-----Original Message----- From: lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org [mailto:lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org] On Behalf Of andie_nachgeborenen Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 3:32 PM To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org Subject: [SPAM_ISU] :Re: [lbo-talk] [SPAM_ISU] :Re: Lenin would support Pussy Riot
One has to experiment, but is there any reason to think that this action contributed in any way towards building a movement?
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On Aug 23, 2012, at 1:53 PM, "Carrol Cox" <cbcox at ilstu.edu> wrote:
> You are flummoxed because (a) you don't think politically and (b) think
the
> same 'principle' should apply in all conditions.
>
> When there is no coherent left movement, left actions are first of all to
> raise the flag as it were, to call out that resistance exists. It _really_
> does not matter what the _content_ of such acts is but only that they ARE,
> they exist, they call out to others to rally around the banner of
> resistance. Content, particular goals, methods of organization, tactics,
> etc. can be worked out later, but NONE of these can be usefully discussed
> until some kind of Movement exists within which they can be discussed.
>
> Carrol
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>
> Look, I don't think PR should go to jail, but I don't find anything
radical
> or interesting in their activities. If someone's consciousness is raised
by
> the sight of a young woman sticking frozen chickens up her vagina, that's
> fine. But I'm flummoxed by the whole thing.
>
> Joanna
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> Against the "radicals" defending Putin against Pussy Riot, I offer this
bit
> from Lenin:
>
> Why is there not a single political event in Germany that does not add to
> the authority and prestige of Social-Democracy? Because Social-Democracy
is
> always found to be in advance of all others in furnishing the most
> revolutionary appraisal of every given event and in championing every
> protest against tyranny. It does not lull itself with arguments that the
> economic struggle brings the workers to realise that they have no
political
> rights and that the concrete conditions unavoidably impel the
working-class
> movement on to the path of revolution. It intervenes in every sphere and
in
> every question of social and political life; in the matter of Wilhelm's
> refusal to endorse a bourgeois progressist as city mayor (our Economists
> have not yet managed to educate. the Germans to the understanding that
such
> an act is, in fact, a compromise with liberalism!); in the matter of the
law
> against "obscene" publications and pictures; in the matter of governmental
> influence on the election of professors, etc., etc. Everywhere the
> Social-Democrats are found in the forefront, rousing political discontent
> among all classes, rousing the sluggards, stimulating the laggards, and
> providing a wealth of material for the development of the political
> consciousness and the political activity of the proletariat. As a result,
> even the avowed enemies of socialism are filled with respect for this
> advanced political fighter...
>
> http://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1901/witbd/iii.htm
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