[lbo-talk] not theory

wrobert at uci.edu wrobert at uci.edu
Thu Jan 26 14:54:08 PST 2012


That was my understanding as well. The Prison Notebooks are a very strange artifact, being modified by translation as well as by the need to avoid censorship, and the editing on the part of Togliatti and other PCI intellectuals as they moved towards Eurocommunism. If you take a look at the new Buttigieg editions, it becomes apparent how much work had to be put into transforming those small fragments into coherent essays. robert wood


> I could definitely be wrong, but wasn't "philosophy of praxis" just
> Gramsci's term for Marxism (I always assumed it to be a euphemism so he
> could get his writings past the prison censors, but I could have made that
> up), and by "praxis" didn't he mean some combination of theory and
> practice
> (practice informed by theory, or vice versa, or both?), so that it doesn't
> make sense to ask what the relationship between theory and praxis is? (Or
> you can ask, but the answer is that theory is a *component* of praxis?)
> (I
> understand that I'm not really answering your questions, Shag!)
>
>
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>> I am curious though. I was a student of what is called the "philosophy
>> of
>> praxis" - a tradition of scholarship that was absorbed with the
>> questions:
>> what is theory? what is praxis? what is the relationship between the
>> two?
>> why does it matter?
>>
>> so, outside of that rarified circle of scholarship, i'm curious how
>> these
>> ideas are conceived otherwise.
>>
>> there's a lot of complaining that the theorists don't *do* anything, or
>> that what they write about is too arcane for people to understand or for
>> it
>> to be useful to anything. max likes to bitch ever so often about this,
>> as
>> others have here on the list.
>>
>> on the other side, there's a lot of complaining that there's to much
>> thoughtless action. In the FHP article, for instance, the complaint is
>> that
>> demos against the war used slogans such as "no blood for oil" which, to
>> the
>> authors, represented an action (protest) directed by bad theory. FH&P
>> felt
>> that the assessments people made about why there was a war were wrong
>> and
>> that, had they had better assessments about what caused the war, they
>> would
>> come up with better slogans and, perhaps?, a different political
>> practice.
>>
>> As FH&P point out, of course, it's not that there is no theory going on.
>> It
>> is rather that there is bad leftist theory going on. Etc. So, even here,
>> the complaint about lack of theory isn't really about the lack of
>> theory,
>> but about the lack of the correct theory.
>>
>> At any rate, just curious what people think it is.
>>
>>
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