On Jan 29, 2012, at 12:29 AM, Carrol Cox wrote:
> Wild. Jameson wrote a book (which I have not read) on Wyndham Lewis &
> fascism. But there is a book or several to be written on the various
> intellectual sympathizers with fascism &/or Nazism & the strange
> ways in
> which the actual 'things' were reflected, channeled, distorted in
> their
> writing. The explicit fascism in the Cantos is not quite the same as
> the
> explicit fascism in some of Pound's other writings. Still, he really
> was a
> fascist with his eyes open. And when he retracted his anti-semitism
> in a
> conversation with Ginsberg, it was a bit weird: he dismissed it as a
> suburban prejudice he had stupidly imbibed. That hardly measures up
> to the
> actual horror in Europe.
>
> And yet I do I really do, love that poem and not being able to pick
> it up
> and browse in it is one of the pains of my lost eyesight.
>
> Carrol
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org [mailto:lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org
> ]
> On Behalf Of Joel Schalit
> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 11:40 PM
> To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
> Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Casa Pound
>
> Here in Turin, there's a lot of anti-Casa Pound graffiti. The
> organization
> has tried to set up a local facility, unsuccessfully, as local
> leftists have
> made big efforts to keep them out.
>
> This said, CP (their initials, ironically, used frequently) take
> inspiration
> from autonomism, and Gramsci, run their own network of fascist
> squats, etc.
> Future skinheads who read left.
>
> A lot of Nazi skins are present in the organization. However, it
> sees itself
> as more of a general clearing hourse for far rightists, constituting
> themselves in a new coalition.
>
> The thing that worries a lot of progressives here, which I have
> read, is
> their student auxiliary, Blocco Studentesco. It's quite successful at
> recruiting high school age kids.
>
> Casa Pound made their biggest global headlines late last year, when a
> member, a fantasy novelist/metalhead guy, killed several Senegalese
> migrants
> in Florence.
>
> Joel
>
>
> On Jan 29, 2012, at 6:25 AM, Carrol Cox wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Gar. Pound was a fascist in at least several senses of the
>> term,
> but
>> he was a lot of other things too. As were the Cantos, fascist in
>> several
>> senses but a lot of other things too. So were Yeats & Eliot
>> actually, but
>> they left themselves wiggle room & Pound didn't. The suit will
>> provide
> minor
>> entertainment for a sprinkling of people I presume.
>>
>> Carrol
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org [mailto:lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org
>> ]
>> On Behalf Of Gar Lipow
>> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 10:54 PM
>> To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
>> Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] "Literary" Gossip FW: Mary dR vs. Casa Pound
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 5:46 AM, Carrol Cox <cbcox at ilstu.edu> wrote:
>>> I don't know who Casa Pound is. Mary is the daughter of Pound & Olga
>> Rudge.
>>> Excuse me, _Princess_ Mary.
>>
>> An Italian Fascist group has named itself Casa Pound (In Spanish
>> would
>> be House of Pound, or perhaps Pound House, don't know if it is the
>> same in Italian) in honor of Pound's fascism. Mary Pound is suing
>> them. Mary's grounds seem to be that Pound was not really a fascist
>> and thus it is slander for a fascist group to name themselves after
>> him. Given the record,it does not sound to me like a winning
>> argument, but not only am I not a lawyer, I don't know Italian law or
>> the current Italian political climate. So my opinion on this is
>> without weight.
>>>
>>> Carrol
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine
>>> [mailto:EPOUND-L at LISTS.MAINE.EDU] On Behalf Of Wayne Pounds
>>> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 6:00 PM
>>> To: EPOUND-L at LISTS.MAINE.EDU
>>> Subject: Mary dR vs. Casa Pound
>>>
>>> Massimo Bacigalupo called my attention to this suit. He wrote, "Some
>> furore
>>> over here because Mary dR is suing CasaPound. There's an article
>>> about
>> this
>>> in the Observer on line. I gathered signatures in her support and a
>>> debate followed. You can also look up the CasaPound website. The
>>> trial
>>> opened this week and the CP lawyers understandably but unfairtly
>>> objected
>>> that MdR must first prove that she is EP's daughter. One
>>> could write a story about this . . . "
>>>
>>> The Guardian has picked up the story:
>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jan/14/ezra-pound-daughter-fascism
>>>
>>> Wayne Pounds
>>>
>>> ___________________________________
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>>
>>
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