[lbo-talk] Casa Pound

[Carrol Cox]

Wild. Jameson wrote a book (which I have not read) on Wyndham Lewis &
fascism. But there is a book or several to be written on the various
intellectual sympathizers with fascism &/or Nazism & the strange ways in
which the actual 'things' were reflected, channeled, distorted in their
writing. The explicit fascism in the Cantos is not quite the same as the
explicit fascism in some of Pound's other writings. Still, he really was a
fascist with his eyes open. And when he retracted his anti-semitism in a
conversation with Ginsberg, it was a bit weird: he dismissed it as a
suburban prejudice he had stupidly imbibed. That hardly measures up to the
actual horror in Europe.

And yet I do I really do, love that poem and not being able to pick it up
and browse in it is one of the pains of my lost eyesight.

Carrol

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On Behalf Of Joel Schalit
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Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Casa Pound

Here in Turin, there's a lot of anti-Casa Pound graffiti. The organization
has tried to set up a local facility, unsuccessfully, as local leftists have
made big efforts to keep them out.

This said, CP (their initials, ironically, used frequently) take inspiration
from autonomism, and Gramsci, run their own network of fascist squats, etc.
Future skinheads who read left.

A lot of Nazi skins are present in the organization. However, it sees itself
as more of a general clearing hourse for far rightists, constituting
themselves in a new coalition.

The thing that worries a lot of progressives here, which I have read, is
their student auxiliary, Blocco Studentesco. It's quite successful at
recruiting high school age kids.

Casa Pound made their biggest global headlines late last year, when a
member, a fantasy novelist/metalhead guy, killed several Senegalese migrants
in Florence.

Joel

On Jan 29, 2012, at 6:25 AM, Carrol Cox wrote:


> Thanks, Gar. Pound was a fascist in at least several senses of the term,
but
> he was a lot of other things too. As were the Cantos, fascist in several
> senses but a lot of other things too. So were Yeats & Eliot actually, but
> they left themselves wiggle room & Pound didn't. The suit will provide
minor
> entertainment for a sprinkling of people I presume.
> 
> Carrol
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org [mailto:lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org]
> On Behalf Of Gar Lipow
> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 10:54 PM
> To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
> Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] "Literary" Gossip FW: Mary dR vs. Casa Pound
> 
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 5:46 AM, Carrol Cox <cbcox at ilstu.edu> wrote:
>> I don't know who Casa Pound is. Mary is the daughter of Pound & Olga
> Rudge.
>> Excuse me, _Princess_ Mary.
> 
> An Italian Fascist group has named itself Casa Pound (In Spanish would
> be House of Pound, or perhaps Pound House, don't know if it is the
> same in Italian) in honor of Pound's fascism. Mary Pound is suing
> them.  Mary's grounds seem to be that Pound was not really a fascist
> and thus it is slander for a fascist group to name themselves after
> him.  Given the record,it does not sound to me like a winning
> argument, but not only am I not a lawyer, I don't know Italian law or
> the current Italian political climate. So my opinion on this is
> without weight.
>> 
>> Carrol
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine
>> [mailto:EPOUND-L at LISTS.MAINE.EDU] On Behalf Of Wayne Pounds
>> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 6:00 PM
>> To: EPOUND-L at LISTS.MAINE.EDU
>> Subject: Mary dR vs. Casa Pound
>> 
>> Massimo Bacigalupo called my attention to this suit. He wrote, "Some
> furore
>> over here because Mary dR is suing CasaPound. There's an article about
> this
>> in the Observer on line. I gathered signatures in her support and a
>> debate followed. You can also look up the CasaPound website. The trial
>> opened this week and the CP lawyers understandably but unfairtly objected
>> that MdR must first prove that she is EP's daughter. One
>> could write a story about this . . . "
>> 
>> The Guardian has picked up the story:
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jan/14/ezra-pound-daughter-fascism
>> 
>> Wayne Pounds
>> 
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