[lbo-talk] Despair, was Spanish promiscuit...?

[Carrol Cox]

Ravi: You know this thread is a perfect example of why electronic
communications are a bad idea. Doug says the people of Greece and Spain are
in for devastation and despair if the Germans don't give up on the machismo.
Carrol seems to misunderstand that to mean that Doug is in despair and
challenges him to "enjoy the battle". Doug draws the contrast with
#firstworldproblems. And we are off to the races.

I think we should return to political discussions in pubs, where the real
and present danger of a bottle to the head will keep all parties focused.
Email, pshaw! :-)

=====

Ravi, you make a perfectly good replacement for the bartender with a bottle.
And there's a lot more variety on e-lists than in any bar.

But on the general subject of despair:

*****. . . it is impossible to make statements such as those of Konrad
Schmidt to the central committee of the socialist majority in the bourgeois
parliament, impossible to say, as Bernstein has, that once we take over
command of the ship, even then we will not be in a position to do away with
capitalism. When I read that, I said to myself: what a stroke of luck that
the French socialist workers weren't that bright in 1871, for then they
would have said: "Children, let's go to bed, our hour has not yet struck,
production is not yet sufficiently concentrated for us to maintain control
of the ship." But then, instead of a moving drama, instead of a heroic
struggle, we would have seen a different scenario, for then the workers
would not have behaved like heroes, but like old women.******

Rosa Luxemburg, 1898

Aliter, the door is always locked if you don't even push on it.

Carrol