[WS:] They exist whether Miranda warning is recited, no? If the cops do not recite this prayer, you confess and that is the only thing they have on you, they cannot get a conviction, and if they do, it will almost certainly be overturned. If, otoh, they caught you with a smoking gun in hand, you will get convicted on that evidence alone, regardless of what you say or do not say. In such a case, Miranda is a red herring to stir up a controversy, because otherwise it is inconsequential.
Wojtek
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote:
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> On Apr 22, 2013, at 2:55 PM, Wojtek S <wsoko52 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > As I said before, Miranda warning is like saying a prayer - symbolic, but
> > otherwise irrelevant. Not saying this prayer may prevent prosecution
> from
> > using what T said in court, but they do not need it, they have plenty of
> > other evidence to convict him.
>
> Presumption of innocence, right to counsel - mere technicalities!
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